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are saying your comments and bill clinton's difference made a show. >> i feel like a ref on this show. >> that's why you understand being paid well. more value. >> you get a lot of penalties. >> i do get a lot of penalties. be careful. you need to stay lady like. >> really. >> that's what todd akin told me. >> double flag. question for you. why are you the only one who can bring up todd akin? because i want to. >> well, there is a recent development. >> right. there wasn't one? i brought it up. go ahead. toss to sports. that's fine. that's a penalty. >> she's tough. >> wouldn't you like to go back to nice? >> no. >> it's beautiful. a lot cheaper. it's off-season. >> i have things to do. >> let's go to new york and, brian, what are you looking at? >> anything but the fiscal cliff right? i've been called a screaming conservative and raging liberal. i guess that means i'm doing something right. let's go to sports now. >> please. just do it. >> it is bipartisan. start with the nfl. ravens and browns last night. i couldn't watch the game because i agreed to come thon show this morning. uni
. i think other debaters like reagan and clinton have understood that better. >> more than 20 primary debates for mitt romney, including this one that aired on cnn. the moderator questioning mitt romney on his taxes. >> you mentioned the democratic attacks. i want to ask you to go back in history. back in 1967, your father said a ground breaking standard in american politics. he released his tax return. he released them for not one year, but for 12 years. when he did that, he said, one year to be a fluke. when you release yours, will you follow your father's example? >> may be. [laughter] i do not know. i will take a look. audience: boo! >> i will be happy to release them. i know there are some who are very anxious to see if they cannot make it more difficult for a campaign to be successful. i am not going to apologize for being successful. [applause] i am not suggesting these people are doing that. i know the democrats will go after me on that basis. that is why i want to release these things at the same time. my dad, born in mexico, toward, did not get a college degree. i could have
't cause autism. hillary clinton said the same thing and so did john mccain. all three made the connection between thimerosol with a trace of mercury in it. that's been debunked. >> again, you're talking about dabbling in some theories, and completely grant you that it's troubling when you talk about people on the left that pushed this idea of a vaccine/autism link. that's troubling and needs to be called out. when you talk about as a party, mitt romney's in his acceptance speech at republican convention mocked the idea of combating climate change. he talked about obama promising to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. he mocked it, and it was a huge applause line. you have a republican party platform using scare quotes to talk about climate change. you have republicans in major positions of influence in the congress saying it's a complete hoax. that's totally out of whack with the kind of hostility of science you see overall on the left. >> so my response to that would be that, see, you're focusing more on the republican party and the democratic party, and that's not the point
, the president has to avoid the kind of condescension we saw him exhibit in that debate with hillary clinton. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. no doubt about it. >> thank you. [laughter] chris: that was a bad moment for the president. >> yeah, it was. he was trying a little towel snapping there but he's in the wrong locker room. it just didn't work. it came off as the essence of arrogant condescension. and the expression, the body language, everything about it. i'm not really looking at you, i'm writing. and that's the sliver of barack obama's character that he can't afford to show if pressured properly by mitt romney. and you know that the romney campaign is focused on trying to produce that kind of reaction. >> they're trying to produce a moment like that. >> they're trying to get into his head. you can produce a moment of strength on the part of your candidate and a moment of weakness or some exposure of vulnerability on the part of the other side. i think everyone here is aware on the romney team and the obama team, b
on that stage and cannot wait to be there and are eager to make their case. bill clinton was like that. ronald reagan was like that. these two are not like that. for them, this is more, please do not let me do anything wrong, than, what can i do right? as was discussed earlier, he needs a dramatic moment to shift the momentum. if he is intimidated by the experience or feeling boxed in, he is less likely to do that. for obama, it is more a question for maintaining his lead. he does not want to do anything right now that reverses the trajectory he is on. i would expect he is a little timid as well. >> if you look at past debates, one dealing with policy, the moment with gerald ford, the other is more style, where obama made a joke about his age. how much is policy and how much a style in these debates? >> i think probably my judgment would be a lot of it is stylistic. it is the way they come across to the voters. it is not necessarily as much what they are saying as how they are saying it. every once in awhile, it is really more of a case of glitch avoidance. that has a lot to do with their hand
hillary clinton. he then enacted the biggest mandate in the history of the country. so i think the best way -- what i would suggest is don't go on defense. everybody in politics has these change positions. so you go after the president for some of those really dramatic flip-flops that he's had just like everybody else. >> rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york, he's in denver helping the romney campaign get ready for a huge night, debate night in america. mr. mayor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. take care. >> thank you. >>> and just ahead here in "the situation room," we're going to hear from the other side, stephanie cutter, the deputy cap pain manager for barack obama, she's going to join us live from denver as well. that's coming up later. our new poll shows voters have very definite ideas about who they expect will win tonight. gloria borger is standing by. she's got the numbers. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color
, the man who served as secretary for bill clinton. robert reich. and grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back. something that very possibly could come up tonight is governor romney floating the idea of capping tax deductions at $17,000. would that effectively be a tax increase? and would it work to bring down the deficit? with us now robert reich who served as labor secretary under bill clinton and grover nor qui quist. >> he's made that commitment as has paul ryan and certainly the vast majority of republicans in the house. which is a commitment not to raise overall taxes. romney's committed to cutting all tax rates at least 20%. ryan and the house republicans want to go to a top rate of 25% corporate and individual. romney's made it clear. any changes are in the context of keeping overall taxes from going up and making sure the middle class doesn't get hit request higher taxes. it's not a tax increase, he's made that clear. >> mr. secretary, a lot of discussion about whether or not the wealthy or the middle class familie
's politics. just yterday at the clinton global itiative, both caidat appdhor president bill clinton. you often hear president obama talking about lincoln, mitt romney talking about ronald reagan, and now "newsweek" is out with a list of the ten best presidents since 1900. sir harold evans w is author offaus "the american century" has a tribute. it's a ploesh to have you here. >> thank you, madam. >> you gaekted together ten distinguished historians. what was the criteria? >> the cteriasha k o active presidents were they. it's very interesting. the historians, all -- every single one of them chose franklin roosevelt as number one. >> why? >> best predent since theodore roosevelt in the beginning of the century. if you ask tm why he did th asivnd effective, those two things. and he had a sense of america's ideal of itself. so they took those creria. they didn't know what the others were doing. they all voted a it's interesting the top three -- around the table and discussing this. >> no, no. it was all in isolation. they locked them in a room with an ice pack and 5,000 volumes of their own
during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say to voters who seemed to like barack obama more. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> governor romney's 23 debate performances during the republican primary his weakness showed when he allowed competitors to get und her is skin prompting irritated off script moments that gave a new meaning to the #awkward. >> anderson -- >> you say you knew. >> would you please wait? >> are you just going to deep talking? >> yes, sir. >> let me finish what i have to say i'm running for office i can't have ill heels. >> when will you release yours? will you follow your father's examples? >> maybe. i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll take a look at what our documents are -- >> you asked me an entirely different question. >> wow. john heilemann, i can't get enough of the semi vintage romney debate clips but want to know as a resident expert on all things campaign related having written a book called "game change" how does this, the pressure
of state hillary clinton herself yesterday saying we now believe there is an al qaeda link to the attack on the consulate in libya. >> in moments we were told by state department officials she didn't mean to say that, that that wasn't what she was saying. she was on a conference on terrorism and she was not linking it to benghazi. it's still not established and proved. in fairness, "the new york times" writer is the only person there among all of the reporters. the transcript does show that she made that connection. but they were all saying at the u.n. that -- >> she's not the first to suggest that. >> matthew olsson testified to it. >> the fact is, whatever confusion there is over whether there was or wasn't terrorism, how the administration handled it has been defused by romney having gone ahead with that press conference, not having reinforcements and said all those stupid things, he's lost the high ground on that issue. >> this is a perfect example. this conversation right here makes my point and makes the point of the romney staffers who are concerned that there is still confusion,
clinton suggested al qaeda was behind the attack, which happened, of course, on september 11th. but a new report that's been corroborated by a cnn contributor says u.s. intelligence knew the group was responsible, even as the administration blamed a spontaneous mob. now, we're also finding out that two weeks after the attack, fbi agents still have not reached benghazi and the consulate still has not been secured. jane harman is a former democratic congresswoman. she was the chairman of the house intelligence committee, and now she heads the wilson center. we're so glad to have you here this morning. so hillary clinton yesterday gave something of a new explanation for what happened in benghazi. the response fm the administration, the splax, has been evolving over the last ten days or so. i want to listen to what she said. >> for some time, al qaeda in the islamic maghreb and other groups have launched attack into neighboring mali and other countries. and they are working with other violent extremists to undermine the violent transitions underway in north africa, as we tragically saw in ben
guess would be five with hillary clinton and three with -- with john mccain. but this, of course, would be the very first debate for -- for governor romney. the cynic in me says this memo is really all about lowering expectations. because if you can lower expectations, whoever beats a low expectation will be the -- the -- seemingly the winner. is that true? >> well, you know, we have televised debates. you have a couple levels of that. you have people who are going to talk about how someone looked, how their makeup looked. remember with nixon it was about how he sweated. with george bush it was about looking at his watch. it's about someone's eye contact with the camera. but what this really still has to come down to is reminding voters what we're facing. and if we continue to import oil, and fund opec and send our soldiers to defend opec oil fields and lose our blood and treasure there, that's a concern. if we talk about the problems with china and the manipulating their currency and that affecting our manufacturing, that's a concern. it's about the cost of health care rising, about go
't to be. bill clinton butchers of beijing. he ends up forging a pretty strong relationship with china. so i think you have to discount a lot of the rhetoric and a lot of what you hear about, about priorities at this point. and probably conclude that when they do get in office that the harold macmillan words will probably drive things more than anything else. and that's defense, my dear boy, events. and then we get back to what you are saying. what will be their management style? what will be their ability a stunt history to respond to those events as they arise. spoonbill, what leadership is have you picked up? >> i think we have an incumbent president so presumably we know how he will be inclined to cover but i suppose one could argue that maybe not becoming, obama took over and over nine in a very unusual circumstance, huge majority in both houses, wind at his back but also apparently failed administration, huge financial crisis. he did various things we could second guess them or not, but rahm emanuel is as chief of staff, they're presumably because he understood how to manage congress
agree to get big compromises on these issues. >> can i add the role of history suggests the clinton and ronald reagan the second term as the productive term, the big achievement so it's hard to know whether the republican party will -- where they will push the blame if that happens, but the question is how they decide to spend the next four years and i think it's very hard to tell but there is some hope in looking back at both clinton and reagan. >> he was also a far right to limit took running the republican party at the time whoever they equivalent was a time and. but in fact he wasn't. life was a little more complicated by the fearful analogy. >> he raised taxes -- >> i think that's why the parties in opposition tend to be less responsible than parties of power. i think you probably agree. >> agree from your point of view i can think of the times when the other party the of irresponsibly in opposition and the question as it seems to me it from the is elected and you have the party that you think would be responsible and is in the position they have to govern and we will see what
as condescending. back when he told hillary clinton that she was likable enough, remember in 2008 during their debate? he's reportedly been practicing some zingers to use against the president. and while powerful sound bites get lots of plays in the days after the debate, remember where the beef commercial, stuff like that. it's questionable if a few good one-liners will be enough to put mitt romney in the white house. here's the question, what can mitt romney do to win the first debate? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile and post a blog or go to "the situation room" facebook page. >>> president obama's court looks different than it was when he was elected with two new justices he nominated. how could it change in four more years if he is re-elected? joe johns has been looking at this story. yesterday, joe, you did a whole piece on how the supreme court might be affected if mitt romney were elected. today you're looking at how the supreme court could be elected if the president is re-elected. >> right, wolf. if the president is re-elected we already have a pretty good road map to the kind of per
me what they're worried about. >> every sitting president goes through this. bill clinton did it. george bush. the idea is to take a deep dive into one's own policies and also look at your opponent's policies and make sure that you're deeply well read into all the the specifics. and so, nobody can be well versed in everything that you've done. i certainly don't remember what i did last year and i bet you don't either. every moment of it, so that's part of the goal. another part of it is to come up with those quote zingers or moments, as much they say they're thot doing it, you know they did it. that's part of it. to come armed with some ready lines to throw out when you need them. >> i'm not even sure i know what i did last week, so i get it. thanks so much. jessica yellin. we want to go back now to anderson cooper a anderson cooper in the cnn election center. >> candy, i can't remember what i did yesterday. let's talk about who has the edge going into tonight. >> anderson, a year ago, you would have said romney had the edge. obama has to defend his lousy jobs record. he's runnin
between bill clinton and bob dole? they didn't matter at all. when they do, a moment rather than the overall tenure of the debate. before the words go by, it's water cooler talk. it's right there. if it looks too staged it looks too staged and mitt romney, one of hig biggest problems with the public, a questioning of his authenticity. if it comes across as a maneuvered, it's less effective. he needs to challenge the frame bill clinton built successfully at the democratic convention. maybe the commit isn't where you want it to be but it's better than when he first got into office. romney has an opportunity to cause voters to look at this through a different lens. that's very important for him. >> president obama trying to lower expectations for wednesday. what he said at a campaign rally in las vegas yesterday. >> governor romney, highse's a man. but, what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and the source of security for hard-working americans. that's what people are looking for. that's what the american peo
with george h. w. bush and bill clinton. >> ross gave a good answer but i have to respond directly to mr. bush. you the question my patriotism. you even brought some white ring congressman out of the war white house to attack me. i honor your service in world war two. i honor mr. perot's service in uniform and every other man and woman who ever served. when joe mccarthy went around this country attacking people's patriotism, he was wrong. a senator from connecticut stood up to him named prescott bush, your father was right to stand up to joe mccarthy and you were wrong to attack my patriotism. i was opposed the war but i love my country and in need a president that will bring this country together and not divided. i want to bake a unified country. [applause] >> i did not question the man's patriotism, i questioned his judgment and character. what he did in moscow was fine and he explained it and i excepted. i don't accept organizing demonstrations and a foreign country when your country is at war. i'm sorry, i cannot accept that. >> all of that debate is on our video library at c-span.org. you
measure. we read your progress in the 23 million jobs created under bill clinton when the average american family felt income go up by 7,500 instead of down 2,000 like george w. bush. that that's the standard he set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent middle class tax cuts. permanent middle class tax cuts so that take-home pay will go up. i'll give you the last word. >> i found myself strangely agreeing with your plan to cut the middle class and take away the deductions and keep tax rates for people who make a lot of money like you and i fairly high. i think that makes abundant good sense. but we're forgetting one thing. the biggest challenge may be even more than anything is our debt and our deficit. and i think with governor romney and paul ryan figured out was they can't give $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and still eat into the deficit, which
, we saw front runners annointed by the media and campaign bosses, senator clinton and governor romney was presumed to be the nominee back then. in both parties we saw the voters take the whole process back from the bosses and the media. >> that's true. >> no one thought barack obama and john mccain would be the nominees in 2008. >> that's true. i don't know necessarily about barack obama i thought john mccain would be. >> the new hampshire primary was a big upset. >> if you look at 2000 and don't realize that he won 49% against george bush. if you look at the early stages of the primary hiring staff, mccain had all the top notch people in his team. he fired a lot because he ran out of money but he had most of the good people that you would want on your team on his team. romney the same way this time around. republicans have a habit of picking people who have run and lost before. there has only been george w. bush since 1976 has been nominated in the republican party without having previously run for and lost the nomination. >> very good point. >> we've only had one ticket, excluding t
obama and netanyahu as they were between clinton and netanyahu. netanyahu and his view of the world and what it takes to make israel secure is closer to a neocon republican view of what it takes to achieve security for israel. i don't think the president wants there to be the sense of a complete and utter breach politically at least in the u.s. going into the election. nor in fact does he want that in practice. the underlying relationship is very solid. the immediate relationship between these two leaders clearly has differences. >> we'll speak in the next hour with the israeli ambassador to the united states. a dramatic moment indeed at the u.n. ron, thanks very much. >>> there's important news out today about jobs. and it may have pulled the rug out from under one of the republican's favorite attacks on president obama. standby. on every one of our cards there's a date. a reminder... that before this date, we have to exceed expectations. we have to find new ways to help make life easier, more convenient and more rewarding. it's the reason why we don't have costumers. we have membe
comprises on the big issues. >> can i add, i mean, a little history can clinton and rage. the second term was the productive term. the big achievement. it's hard no know whether the republican party will -- where they will push the blame if that happens. but the question is how they decide to spend the next four years. and i think it's very hard to tell. but there is some hope in looking back at both clinton and reagan. >> reagan was considered a far-right lunatic running a far right republican party, by the way, at the time. by whoever the equivalent was at the time. maybe it was tom freedman. in fact he wasn't. >>, i mean, life is more complicated despite the analogy. >> he raced. he raised taxes when he needed to . >> he did a lot of things and, you know, that's why i think parties in opposition tend to be less responsible than parties in power. i think you probably agree with that. >> what's different. >> difference in agreeing from your point of view. i can think of times when the other party also behavedder responsely in the opposition and the question is, it seems to me is if romne
the two leaders will speak on the phone. netanyahu met with secretary of state hillary clinton thursday after his speech. >> margaret brennan watched the speech. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie. the israeli prime minister made a public appeal to the u.n. to set a firm ultimatum on iran to stop the nuclear development. he put pressure on the obama administration to take a tougher tone weeks ahead of the u.s. presidential election. >> reporter: israel's rhetorical red line. >> a red line should be drawn right here. >> reporter: became a literal one as prime minister benjamin netanyahu took to the u.n. general assembly with a red marker and a chart of what he says is iran's progress towards developing nuclear weapons. >> red lines don't lead to war. red lines prevent war, and i believe that faced with a clear red line, iran will back down. >> reporter: the prime minister's speech put in stark relief the differences between how the u.s. and israel view the threat of a nuclear iran. >> a nuclear armed iran is not a challenge that can be contained. >> reporter: while p
their minds than we think. the democratic convention moved the needle in this race because bill clinton went out for 45 minutes and made a case on substance largely against mitt romney and he made it. and romney's 47% remark moved the needle. there is a narrow lead for president obama. so romney needs to make the case affirmatively for his program and why it's better than the president's. this is not just a referendum. this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't that excited about their choice. but it's mostly the independent voters they will have to focus on. bill: you make the case this debate is really for them. the persuadables. >> it's not just for
, the clinton global initiative that's finished three days of meetings. every year leaders address pressing problems across the world. on tuesday they heard from the two men who could be president for the next four years. >> partisan politics took a back seat tuesday as governor mitt romney laid out his vision for u.s. foreign aid. >> a temporary aid package can give the economy a boost. but an assistance program that helps unleash free enterprise can create enduring prosperity. >> hours later president barack obama spoke out against human trafficking denouncing it as a form of slavery. >> it was barbaric and evil and has no place in a civilized world. >> the closing session also featured the new leader of egypt, mohamed morsi who said the middle east was at a critical junk tur. >> why we must acknowledge the importance of free democracy we must recognize that such freedom comes with responsibilities. >> as in years past participants made concrete commitments to tackle issues both local and global like creating a severe weather system for haiti, donating a million hearing aids for children
romney. i mean when bill clinton got angry on hillary's behalf, didn't work that well. when teresa heinz told a reporter to shove it, not the best moment. i think that ann romney has been having some of those moments. i actually think that she explained to us better than anybody why the choice for paul ryan, though, when she said early on he's looking for someone he feels comfortable with. >> and that was it. >> and i just think, you know, the whole paul ryan not being utilized correctly, i mean you usually hear that complaint from the vice presidential nominee's camp itself and you're not doing that and i think he actually has been a pretty loyal second and that will help him maintain his brand. >> i do too. i think also the thing that will help him is the thing that alex pointed out before, and we have a been talking about, the distance -- if romney loses conservatives who consider paul ryan their hero are going to say the reason romney lost because he didn't embrace ryan enough. that will allow ryan to maintain his heroic status with that group of intellectuals and activists the basis
of here, already. that hurt him, i think, in his re-election bid against bill clinton back in 1992. it is part of the game. it is what goes on. but i think these debates are going to be really, really important for that, 6%, 7%, 8% who are legitimately undecided or switchable, haven't completely made up their minds. they're going to be watching the three presidential debates, the one vice presidential debate in october. and they'll make up their minds. i think all the people who are voting now early, they basically have already made up their minds obviously. that's why they're voting early and they're not going to necessarily -- they don't think they'll be influenced by the debates. maybe some of them will be. but it will be too late for them because they already will have voted. >> well, let's talk about some of the polls and whether they're indications of anything. particularly these polls that give us a glimpse of three of the nine swing states. journal marist poll showing romney trailing the president by 7 points in new hampshire. romney trailing obama by two points in north ca
. the believing they had with hillary clinton left them with many unanswered questions. catherine herridge is in washington this mourn. what are we learning about the letter. >> reporter: thank you and good morning. fox was first to obtain this letter. significantly it's signed by the heads of the intelligence, armed services, appropriations, skwrurb dish airy and foreign relation commit taoets who have oversight on these issues. they are disturbed by statement made by the members of the administration that would lead americans that this attack was a protest gone wrong . we stand ready to return to washington. right after the briefing thursday on capitol hill by the secretary of state and the director of national intelligence they indicated it was inadequate. >> they did give some information but said that something that they said could be talked about outside, so i guess i didn't learn anything. it's nice to see you all, but there i not really much to say. >> i think it was very important that secretary clinton and senator clapper and the other people there told the entire body, our congr
to thank her big brother clinton. >> my brother told me, he sat there and he held dog in his arms, words cannot express how thankful i am for my brother. >> pit is my family coming home. >> finally back home again in indiana. michelle miller, cbs news, gary indiana. >> that is the cbs evening news for tonight's call. for all of us at cbs news, all- around world, good night. >> good evening i am alan martin >> i am dana king and we begin with breaking news @ san fransisco where a wild chase through the western mission just came to a dramatic finish and our cameras were there when it ended. joe vasquez joins us live from the scene near hays and webster. >> take a look at the mess that was left behind by this wild chase, you can see several cars dashed through the streets in the western addition including a cbs 5 live truck. back there you can see the car there were chasing, a mercedes. apparently that this started with the robbery of a woman that was walking through pacific heights and it just took off through the streets, one car after another hit by the car they were chasing. a couple of
clinton one-on-one for more than an hour in what was described as an indepth discussion on iran and shared goal of preventing that country from acquiring a nuclear weapon. just hours earlier, netanyahu used visual imagery to lay out in clear terms his own red line for dealing with iran. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more from the u.n. general assembly. >> reporter: trying to immobilize the world against what he sees as a threat to israel's existence, benjamin netanyahu armed himself with a simple cartoon to illustrate how close he says iran is to developing a nuclear weapon. >> this is a bomb. this is a fuse. >> reporter: a day after iran's president ahmadinejad called israel uncivilized zionists. iran is already 70% to getting enough nuclear fuel for a bomb and has to be stopped within months. >> if these are the facts -- and they are -- where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. >> reporter: president obama told the u.n. this week he thinks there is a way to avoid military action. >> america wants to resolve this issue thro
at him and the president himself is quite an adept debater. >> he had clinton at the convention. >> that comes down to the two theories of the race. one was right, one was wrong. the romney theory, tell ople it's okay even though the president's a nice guy to vote against him because everyone's primed to vote against him. the democrats went into the convention realizing they needed to make a substantive case and tear down romney's agenda. romney needs to build that up again. >> have you everybody observed, mortimer, how -- have you observed, mortimer, how much the president relies on a teleprompter and of course romney probably less so? but he's been out there in the field. obama really hasn't been debating, and he doesn't have a teleprompter during the debate. >> he won't have a teleprompter, but let's face it, he is an articulate speaker and i'm sure he'll practice enough so he doesn't need one. i have a slightly different view of what romney has to do. he has to establish himself as a credible candidate and credible occupant of the presidency. that is not something he has don
to get a hint of his debate demeanor. check this out with me. first, with hillary clinton at the time obama's rival for the democratic nomination for president. >> set of assertions made by senator clinton as well as her husband that are not factually accurate. and -- >> you like to pretend like the war started in 2007. you talk about the surge, the war started in 2003. and the -- and at the time, when the war started, you said it was going to be quick and easy you said you knew where the weapons of mass destruction were, you were wrong. >> so that was a little taste for you on how the president goes into attack mode. jessica yellin, chief white house correspondent, also out there in denver for us. there is all this talk about, you know, what romney's challenge is going into tonight's debate. but what about the president? what about the challenge facing the president? is there any chance he takes the fight to romney? >> yes, in the sense that i expect that he will try to force romney to drill down and get specific about some of the tax changes that he would specify with the ways he wo
given bill clinton's speech and given the bump in the polls and the right track/wrong track stuff has improved. people have sort of come around to thinking that maybe it was a tough four years for anyone. can romney ever make the case that it is still a really bad economy that we're under? this is the worst recession. can he make it without looking nasty? >> i think he's got to make it. i think he's got to get people to look down the road and see the train wreck that's coming. >> not the one we've already had. >> 1.1 trillion in deficits racking up every year. we can run about 200 and keep the debt of gdp constant. which means we have a $900 billion tax increase coming. there's only about $1 trillion of income taxes. these are enormous tax increases that have to come. the president has fought every spending cut that's come along. he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win
's done a better job and including that's president clinton's job, but a better job of saying, hey, this was a deep economic mess, my policies are still kicking in. you've got to give it time. he had more success making that argument than romney has trying to say, no, no, no, obama's policies have made it worse. >> john harwood? >> well, gene, i would say, i think chuck's point is the right one, which is that he's got to connect bad circumstances in the economy to what obama's done. but even more important is connecting something better in the future with his own policies. the idea that tax cuts, which he hasn't been talking about all that much. he barely mentioned them in his convention speech, that's going to produce the kind of growth he's talked about. and as you know, that's not an easy case to make. some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a b
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